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60 mile ride biking data

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  1. Ok, I have to admit that I simply have to eat during a long ride. When
    you figure that I left this Sunday at 8:30 am and did not get back to my
    house until about 2:30 pm, that's a long time without eating (compare that
    if I was at work, I'd have eaten two meals and a snack in that time
    period). I ate/drank two bars (270 cal, 30g of carbs), one before the
    ride, one during, and had four drinks -- three with maltodextrin, lite
    salt, and protein, and one with maltodextrin and lite salt. There are
    about 10g carbs and 10g protein in the carb/protein drinks, but I had
    probably 20g carbs in the carb-only drink. My biking data:

    Distance: 62.4 miles
    Total time: 6:48:24
    Altitude climbed: 4820 feet
    Avg. speed: 11.4 mph (calc. made while moving)
    Max. speed: 42.4 mph (it rained the entire time I rode, so I couldn't go
    fast downhill)
    Avg. HR: 156 (84% of Max HR of 186)
    Max. HR for this ride: 196 (incorrect -- a spike around HRs that are
    lower)
    Calories burnt: 5771 (according to HR monitor, which knows my weight,
    age, altitude gained, avg. speed, an estimate of my VO2Max, max HR, etc.)

    In terms of HR data, I spent almost 20% of my total time at or above 170
    bpm (91%+ of Max HR) and 50% of the time above 160 bpm (86%+ of Max HR).

    Now, the HR monitor gives me 5771 calories burnt. I have to say that I
    believe this number, as the ride I'm riding is nothing but hills and is
    absolutely brutal. Nonetheless, even if it's wrong by half, it'd be 2885
    calories, and there's no way I took in that many calories for the entire
    day.

    My impressions of the ride: hellacious. There are seven hills in the
    first 20 miles. I stop at a local park, and I was shocked that I was so
    tired and still had 40+ miles to go (my goal was 70 miles, but I couldn't
    do that, particularly since it rained 80% of the time). Then, there's a
    long climb up to a plunging descent (where I can hit 50+ mph in the dry),
    a respite of a relatively flat section, another long climb up to another
    plunging descent, then I turn around. Those two plunging descents are now
    long, steep hills to be climbed. (The benefit to the long climbs -- these
    are nice downhills; last year, I used to be able to haul butt down the
    long climbs, but the first 20 miles are so hard that I run out of energy
    now.) On the way back to my house, I hit the two massive hills, then with
    2.5 or 3 miles from my house, I hit the "Col de Hogsback", which is an
    incredibly steep, short hill. In about 1.1 miles, I climb 470 feet (8%
    grade?), but there is one very steep section, a less steep section, then
    another very steep section. Yesterday, I again thought I'd have to walk
    up Hogsback, as I was bushed (and I put on a 12x25 rear cogset, from a
    12x27, so I now have harder gears).

    Anyway, I have to say that I absolutely have to eat on my ride. I also
    ate some amount of high carb the days leading to the long ride. However,
    I was so tired at the end of the ride and immediately afterwards (I laid
    on the floor for about 20 minutes), that I cannot tell whether carb
    loading helped me or not.

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    Bob M
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  2. Bob M <[email hidden]> wrote:
    :> Ok, I have to admit that I simply have to eat during a long ride.

    Why would you consider otherwise? Is there something to prove by not eating
    during a ride like this?

    :> When you figure that I left this Sunday at 8:30 am and did not get
    :> back to my house until about 2:30 pm, that's a long time without
    :> eating (compare that if I was at work, I'd have eaten two meals and
    :> a snack in that time period). I ate/drank two bars (270 cal, 30g of
    :> carbs), one before the ride, one during, and had four drinks --
    :> three with maltodextrin, lite salt, and protein, and one with
    :> maltodextrin and lite salt. There are about 10g carbs and 10g
    :> protein in the carb/protein drinks, but I had probably 20g carbs in
    :> the carb-only drink. My biking data:
    :>
    :> Distance: 62.4 miles
    :> Total time: 6:48:24
    :> Altitude climbed: 4820 feet
    :> Avg. speed: 11.4 mph (calc. made while moving)
    :> Max. speed: 42.4 mph (it rained the entire time I rode, so I
    :> couldn't go fast downhill)
    :> Avg. HR: 156 (84% of Max HR of 186)
    :> Max. HR for this ride: 196 (incorrect -- a spike around HRs that are
    :> lower)

    How often does your HRM sample your HR? It might be time to move your max
    HR upward...

    :> Calories burnt: 5771 (according to HR monitor, which knows my
    :> weight, age, altitude gained, avg. speed, an estimate of my VO2Max,
    :> max HR, etc.)
    :>
    :> In terms of HR data, I spent almost 20% of my total time at or above
    :> 170 bpm (91%+ of Max HR) and 50% of the time above 160 bpm (86%+ of
    :> Max HR).
    :>
    :> Now, the HR monitor gives me 5771 calories burnt. I have to say
    :> that I believe this number, as the ride I'm riding is nothing but
    :> hills and is absolutely brutal.

    The ride can be brutal and nothing but hills, but that doesn't have anything
    to do with calories burned.

    :> Nonetheless, even if it's wrong by
    :> half, it'd be 2885 calories, and there's no way I took in that many
    :> calories for the entire day.

    That's a more realistic number and is quite significant, IMO.

    :>
    :> My impressions of the ride: hellacious. There are seven hills in
    :> the first 20 miles. I stop at a local park, and I was shocked that
    :> I was so tired and still had 40+ miles to go (my goal was 70 miles,
    :> but I couldn't do that, particularly since it rained 80% of the
    :> time). Then, there's a long climb up to a plunging descent (where I
    :> can hit 50+ mph in the dry), a respite of a relatively flat section,
    :> another long climb up to another plunging descent, then I turn
    :> around. Those two plunging descents are now long, steep hills to be
    :> climbed. (The benefit to the long climbs -- these are nice
    :> downhills; last year, I used to be able to haul butt down the long
    :> climbs, but the first 20 miles are so hard that I run out of energy
    :> now.) On the way back to my house, I hit the two massive hills,
    :> then with
    :> 2.5 or 3 miles from my house, I hit the "Col de Hogsback", which is
    :> an incredibly steep, short hill. In about 1.1 miles, I climb 470
    :> feet (8% grade?), but there is one very steep section, a less steep
    :> section, then another very steep section. Yesterday, I again
    :> thought I'd have to walk up Hogsback, as I was bushed (and I put on
    :> a 12x25 rear cogset, from a 12x27, so I now have harder gears).
    :>
    :> Anyway, I have to say that I absolutely have to eat on my ride. I
    :> also ate some amount of high carb the days leading to the long ride.
    :> However, I was so tired at the end of the ride and immediately
    :> afterwards (I laid on the floor for about 20 minutes), that I cannot
    :> tell whether carb loading helped me or not.

    For a ride like this, carb loading does help. You don't want to bonk on
    rides like these...

    Again, estimate your expected calorie burn ahead of your ride using say, 50
    kcals / mile. Then is some port of that ahead of the ride and some during,
    from carbs & protein (4-to-1 ratio), and you'll be fine.

    Congrats on doing that in the rain, too. I refuse to ride in the rain.

  3. Maltodextrin is not low carb.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Bob M" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Avg. speed: 11.4 mph (calc. made while moving)

    FFS

  4. It's funny how you fatties back each other up on this point.

    And stay fat.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    For a ride like this, carb loading does help. You don't want to bonk on
    rides like these...

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