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  1. ultimatley it is your choice, but basically what has been said is this:

    -a 29er will be fast, and will get you to your school with ease.
    -a 29er is easliy manuverable.
    -a 36er will be fast, but cumbersome.
    -a 36er is not as easily manuverable as a 29er and will be better for
    cruising long distance rides.

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  2. phlegm said:

    I would get the 29er for transportation simply because it's cheaper and
    less novel than a 36er, which hopefully makes it less of a target for
    thieves and vandals.

    I rather doubt anyone will be able to tell the difference between a
    29er and a 36er in terms of novelty. Either way its a unicycle and
    either way its a big wheel. If a person is going to vandalize a 36 they
    aren't going to notice that a 29er is 7 inches smaller and overlook it.

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  3. You mentioned that you want the unicycle to 'replace' a bike, and in
    saying that I would suggest the 36". You also mentioned that you had
    about $410 from your newspaper route. With that amount of money you
    could go two ways:

    1. Save a little more and invest in the Nimbus 36er
    2. Spend less than you have and get a stock Coker or Radial 360

    Personally, I would go with number 2 and get a Coker or Radial 360
    because you can then enjoy upgrading it with a lighter rim and a T7
    Tour Handle, but still keep the price below that of a Nimbus.

    -Mike

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  4. I use my 20" KH Trials to get everywhere. A little slower than i would
    like but I can take it anywhere and it works for everything. off
    road...trials...flatland. Whatever your feeling...

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  5. Sir Falloffalot said:

    ok this is a tough decision. oh and at the beginning fo the thread i
    also forgot to mention the fact that i also really want a 24inch
    bedford bc wheel w/ lowrider plates:p . So im at a cross road, im in a
    pickle, im stuck in a rut, im.........any way you get the point. Thank
    you all for your insight on the matter.

    to be honest with you, we can't decide for you. You've heard what
    people have to say about the wheelsizes so make your pick. I think a
    36'' is ridiculous for 2km, it's like buying a hummer because you have
    a gravel driveway. and for the bc,... well what are you asking?

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  6. Hazmat said:

    If you want some serious commuters: 😄
    - 48" This is probably the ultimate commuter and costs $549us. Even
    though there's a 2 to 3 weeks for delivery. :p
    - 43" This one is $600us and is pretty good, considering it is a
    semcycle.

    Not recommended for lots of mileage! A solid rubber tire is hardcore
    doing it the hard way. That's fine if that's what you want, but a 36"
    (air) tire is infinitely more pleasant to ride any distance. Those
    larger wheels (until air tires are available for them) are much better
    suited to novelty riding, such as occasional rides, parades, shows,
    etc. Take it from me. I have a 45" solid tire uni, and a Coker. The
    Coker is the one that gets ridden. The 45" is relegated to parades and
    shows. Getting a Coker was what got me doing lots of longer rides, even
    though I'd had the 45" wheel for 20 years.

    I have already recommended the Nimbus 36 if you want to show off, so
    there you have it. If you want practical, something smaller will work
    fine.

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  7. Saul_nova said:

    Yeah, I would go with the wider hub for everything. The whole idea
    behind that cool Nimbus 36er frame is for it to be stiff, not bendy.

    Make the wide hub be the new standard. No point in offering the narrow
    hub on a unicycle of any size, when even the weight savings is
    negligible, right?

    what about putting a wide hub into a 29 inch?

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  8. dan de man said:

    what about putting a wide hub into a 29 inch?

    Yes, that’s precisely what I’m talking about. Make the wider hub be
    the new standard for wheels and frames of all sizes. Not only will it
    get rid of incompatibilities, but it will make all the wheels stronger,
    with the only detriment being that it adds a few negligible grams.

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  9. gordito8me said:

    to be honest with you, we can't decide for you.

    Oh yes we can...that's what we're here for.

    GET THE 36. All decided. No more arguments.

    Happy now?

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  10. Saul_nova said:

    Yes, that’s precisely what I’m talking about. Make the wider hub be the
    new standard for wheels and frames of all sizes. Not only will it get
    rid of incompatibilities, but it will make all the wheels stronger,
    with the only detriment being that it adds a few negligible grams.

    I don't want the extra hub width on a 20" or 24" or even a 26" wheel.
    Completely unnecessary. The standard hub width builds to a suitably
    strong wheel for those wheel sizes. You definitely don't want the
    extra width on a 20" freestyle unicycle. The extra width means you'd
    hit the pedals on the ground more often when doing tight turns and also
    means you're going to have more wobble ("S" shape wobble tire track on
    the ground) while pedaling. Both of those characteristics are bad for
    freestyle.

    For a 29er and especially the 36er the wide hub is a very good thing.
    The wide hub improves the geometry of the wheel. Makes for a stronger
    wheel laterally. The wheel flexes less and is less likely to taco.

    The wide hub geometry was designed to give the big 36" wheel the proper
    geometry. The spokes need to form triangles to give the wheel lateral
    strength. The wider hub means a wider triangle. The width of the hub
    was calculated to give that lateral triangle formed by the spokes the
    same angle as a standard width hub on a 20" wheel.

    If you want to swap 29er and 36er wheels on the Nimbus 36 frame the
    wide hub on a 29er would be just the thing needed. Makes for a
    stronger wheel and you're all good.

    Keep in mind though that swapping wheels is an inconvenient process.
    Takes time, takes effort, gets your hands dirty. If you have different
    length cranks on the 29er and 36er you'll also need to change the seat
    height and that only makes the swap more inconvenient. If you do
    decide to do the wheel swap routine you'll find it more convenient if
    you use the same length cranks on the 29er wheel and 36er wheel.

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  11. johnfoss said:

    Not recommended for lots of mileage! A solid rubber tire is hardcore
    doing it the hard way. That's fine if that's what you want, but a 36"
    (air) tire is infinitely more pleasant to ride any distance. Those
    larger wheels (until air tires are available for them) are much better
    suited to novelty riding, such as occasional rides, parades, shows,
    etc. Take it from me. I have a 45" solid tire uni, and a Coker. The
    Coker is the one that gets ridden. The 45" is relegated to parades and
    shows. Getting a Coker was what got me doing lots of longer rides, even
    though I'd had the 45" wheel for 20 years.

    I have already recommended the Nimbus 36 if you want to show off, so
    there you have it. If you want practical, something smaller will work
    fine.

    Oh ok i always wondered why they make such big tyre sizes for
    unicycles. I would've thought it would be for street purposes. 😄 :p 🙂
    :p 😄

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  12. tomblackwood said:

    Oh yes we can...that's what we're here for.

    GET THE 36. All decided. No more arguments.

    Happy now?

    Absolutely. If he gets the coker (Nimbus) I reckon his riding would
    grow into it. The Nimbus just begs to be ridden (says me who couldn't
    bare to turn around today cos the riding felt so good so it was dark
    before I got home and I didn't have any lights with me).

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  13. 🙂

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  14. john_childs said:

    If you have different length cranks on the 29er and 36er you'll also
    need to change the seat height and that only makes the swap more
    inconvenient. If you do decide to do the wheel swap routine you'll
    find it more convenient if you use the same length cranks on the 29er
    wheel and 36er wheel.

    That’s helpful to know, as I was going to have shorter cranks on the
    smaller wheel. Thanks for that tip, as well as the answer to my
    question about making all wheel/frame sizes use the wider hub (I’d
    meant it to be a question, I assure you 🙂 ).

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  15. UDC should re-brand the Nimbus 36 as "BlueNonshift" 😄

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  16. For those that say a 36 is "cumbersome" I have to disagree. I find it
    to be perfectly suitable for city riding and even navigating sidewalks.

    I agree that a 29er is more nimble, lightweight, and easy to store and
    transport.

    But if your goal is to use the unicycle for transportation rather than
    performing "skills", nothing is better than a 36er.

    I don't think a 29er has any advantages over a 36er for riding shorter
    distances (2k) vs. longer distances.

    If it's not maneuverable enough for you, you probably just haven't put
    enough miles on it yet.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking 29ers, they ARE more versitile,
    but I'd never trade my 36er for one.

    That being said, I think the Nimbus is a no-brainer, and make sure to
    get the better spokes.

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  17. uni_jim said:

    "Pads are for people who do not have trust in their abilities" 🙂

    That's from his sig line. I left the smiley on, but a quote like that
    usually comes from people who don't have any scars, if you know what I
    mean.

    mscalisi said:

    For those that say a 36 is "cumbersome" I have to disagree. I find it to
    be perfectly suitable for city riding and even navigating sidewalks.

    I agree and disagree. My 36" definitely rides more cumbersomely (I
    looked it up) than my smaller wheels, except maybe my Wilder with low
    pressure in the tire. It's not that it *can't* maneuver, just that it
    only maneuvers about as well as a bike. All my other unicycles,
    including in some ways my 45", are more maneuverable. But still, as I
    mentioned before, my Coker is my favorite for cruising, either on the
    road or on not-so-technical trails.

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  18. TonyMelton said:

    The two 36" unicycles which Unicycle.com produce both indeed have the
    wide hub as standard. ('Nimbus 36' (http://tinyurl.com/yxngze) and 'UDC
    36\"' (http://tinyurl.com/c3psl)) 36" unis built with narrow hubs
    suffer from weak flexy wheels. The reason the first generation of 36ers
    came with narrow hubs is that there were no wide hubs available at the
    time, rather than for the purposes of saving weight. If you wanted one
    you had to make it yourself. This is how I got my first wide Suzue hub.

    NOOoooo! I almost considered about getting another 36". No way I'd
    have a wide hub on it though 🙁 .

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  19. Yes, more cumbersome relative to a smaller wheel, but not cumbersome as
    a form of transportation. I'd still argue that it's more maneuverable
    than a bike, but I guess that depends on what kind of maneuver you're
    attempting.

    ...you might say that your 45" is more maneuverable, but I've seen you
    pirouette on it. 🙂

    johnfoss said:


    I agree and disagree. My 36" definitely rides more cumbersomely (I
    looked it up) than my smaller wheels, except maybe my Wilder with low
    pressure in the tire. It's not that it *can't* maneuver, just that it
    only maneuvers about as well as a bike. All my other unicycles,
    including in some ways my 45", are more maneuverable. But still, as I
    mentioned before, my Coker is my favorite for cruising, either on the
    road or on not-so-technical trails.

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  20. mscalisi said:

    I'd still argue that it's more maneuverable than a bike, but I guess
    that depends on what kind of maneuver you're attempting.

    If nothing else, a 36er rolls over unsuspecting pedestrians more easily
    than a bike. 😉

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