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  1. Hi all:

    I've been running a complete Ultegra triple setup on my Merlin road
    bike for several weeks now and I'm having a couple of small problems.

    First, I've found that the wire running to the front derailleur tends
    to go slack over time requiring frequent fiddling with the barrel
    adjuster mounted on the head tube. The wire itself isn't the problem -
    it's been on the bike for about a year now - and the wire isn't
    slipping at the derailleur clamp. It seems the barrel aduster itself
    is tightening due to road vibration and the pull of the spring in the
    derailleur. I've replaced the original Merlin adjuster with one that's
    longer and has a stronger spring; that's helped, but hasn't completely
    solved the problem.

    Second, if the chain is on the middle chainring up front and the large
    cog in the rear and I turn the cranks backwards, the chain tends to
    move toward the second largest cog and eventually the
    chain/derailleur/cogs all jam up together. As the shifing itself has
    been just fine I figure the problem has something to do with the "b"
    adjustment screw in that the top pulley of the derailleur is either too
    close or too far away from the cog, but I don't know which.

    Can anybody shed some light on these issues?

    TIA.

    Tom Young

  2. TomYoung said:

    Hi all:

    I've been running a complete Ultegra triple setup on my Merlin road
    bike for several weeks now and I'm having a couple of small problems.

    First, I've found that the wire running to the front derailleur tends
    to go slack over time requiring frequent fiddling with the barrel
    adjuster mounted on the head tube. The wire itself isn't the problem -
    it's been on the bike for about a year now - and the wire isn't
    slipping at the derailleur clamp. It seems the barrel aduster itself
    is tightening due to road vibration and the pull of the spring in the
    derailleur. I've replaced the original Merlin adjuster with one that's
    longer and has a stronger spring; that's helped, but hasn't completely
    solved the problem.

    Screw the barrell adjuster all the way in and then tighten the cable.
    No need to use the barrel adjuster to postion the front der, use the
    limit screws.

    Quoted message said:


    Second, if the chain is on the middle chainring up front and the large
    cog in the rear and I turn the cranks backwards, the chain tends to
    move toward the second largest cog and eventually the
    chain/derailleur/cogs all jam up together. As the shifing itself has
    been just fine I figure the problem has something to do with the "b"
    adjustment screw in that the top pulley of the derailleur is either too
    close or too far away from the cog, but I don't know which.

    Screw the b limit screw 'in', to move the top pulley away from the
    cogset. Generally tho, this chainline, altho useable, will often cause
    the chain to go to a smaller cog when pedalled backwards. Avoiding that
    is really the key.

    Quoted message said:


    Can anybody shed some light on these issues?

    TIA.

    Tom Young

  3. Qui si parla Campagnolo said:
    TomYoung said:

    Hi all:

    I've been running a complete Ultegra triple setup on my Merlin road
    bike for several weeks now and I'm having a couple of small problems.

    First, I've found that the wire running to the front derailleur tends
    to go slack over time requiring frequent fiddling with the barrel
    adjuster mounted on the head tube. The wire itself isn't the problem -
    it's been on the bike for about a year now - and the wire isn't
    slipping at the derailleur clamp. It seems the barrel aduster itself
    is tightening due to road vibration and the pull of the spring in the
    derailleur. I've replaced the original Merlin adjuster with one that's
    longer and has a stronger spring; that's helped, but hasn't completely
    solved the problem.

    Screw the barrell adjuster all the way in and then tighten the cable.
    No need to use the barrel adjuster to postion the front der, use the
    limit screws.

    Quoted message said:


    Thanks for the reply. I probably should have specified that this is
    the 9-speed Ultegra group with the 6510 brifter that works for both
    doubles and triples. The limit screws are set properly, it's the
    effective lengthening of the inner wire (as the barrel adjuster screws
    in) that's fouling things up. I guess I could screw the adjuster all
    the way in and then "preload" the inner wire by moving the derailleur
    "out" before tightening down the clamp, but it'd be just luck if I got
    the adjustment right. I might have to resort to this, though.

    Thanks again.

    Tom Young

  4. TomYoung said:


    Thanks for the reply. I probably should have specified that this is
    the 9-speed Ultegra group with the 6510 brifter that works for both
    doubles and triples. The limit screws are set properly, it's the
    effective lengthening of the inner wire (as the barrel adjuster screws
    in) that's fouling things up. I guess I could screw the adjuster all
    the way in and then "preload" the inner wire by moving the derailleur
    "out" before tightening down the clamp, but it'd be just luck if I got
    the adjustment right. I might have to resort to this, though.

    Thanks again.

    Tom Young

    Hi, I had the same problem with the barrel adjuster on my DA triple
    FD. I cut a piece of rubber in the shaspe of a U. I wedge that around
    the base of the adjuster, so it can't move. So, readjust it properly,
    then find your own simple way to secure it.

    Mine hasn't moved, since I put the rubber piece in. And it is
    removable for adjustments. It really quite simple;-)

    Life is Good!
    Jeff

  5. I discovered that my local Ace Hardware store has 5mm nyloc nuts.
    (These are nuts with a short nylon sleeve which "locks" the nut in
    place.) I took a 5mm tap and ran it through the nut and part of the
    way into the nylon sleeve (without the partial threading of the sleeve
    you can't turn the adjuster by hand) and then ran the adjuster through
    the nyloc nut from the nylon side. So, the "hex" portion of the nut
    sets into the barrel holder mount on the head tube OK and the partially
    threaded nylon sleeve keeps the adjuster from tightening up on its on,
    but still allows me to make adjustments by hand.

    Working OK so far!

    Tom Young

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