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10 mg is OVERDOSE Re: Disabled after taking STATIN

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  1. "Sharon Hope" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:...

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    If you read the article, you would know that it was about
    how standard


    'low'

    Quoted message said:

    starting dosages are actually OVERDOSES. A quote from the
    start of the article, The OD MD, by Fred Dickey, Los
    Angeles Times Magazine, February


    15,

    Quoted message said:

    2004:

    "Jay Cohen believes he knows what went wrong in Michael
    Hope's life.

    Hope, 56, sits in his home in the San Gabriel Valley and
    tries to use his brain, an effort of tortuous frustration
    for a former quick-thinking business executive. Not only
    does he suffer from constant muscle pain throughout his
    body but also from the anguish of short-term memory loss


    and

    Quoted message said:

    hte inability to command words in simple conversation.
    When he finally gives up on the word he is trying to think
    of and attempts a substitute,


    he

    Quoted message said:

    has forgotten not only what he has been trying to say, but
    what the entire conversation was about.

    The reason for his Job-like travails? Not a dread disease
    or an exotic


    virus

    Quoted message said:

    from Africa. After years of tests and consultations with
    doctors,


    chemists

    Quoted message said:

    and others, Hope believes he suffers from overdose of the
    drug Lipitor,


    the

    Quoted message said:

    top-selling prescription drug in America today and a
    member of the family


    of

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    drugs - called statins - that are hailed as lifesavers for
    reducing cholesterol.

    Hope took the drug for four years. The dosage was just 10
    milligrams per day, the standard dose recommended by the
    pharmaceutical company. So


    what's

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    the problem?

    The standard dose is the problem, says Cohen, an activist
    physician and author who has picked a fight with the
    powerful pharmaceutical industry. Lipitor should have been
    available in doses of 5 milligrams or even 2.5 milligrams,
    Cohen says, but he doesn't believe the problem is confined
    to Lipitor......"

    The article goes on to make the case that the drug
    companies and the


    system

    Quoted message said:

    reward unnecessarily potent starting prescription
    strengths, to the detriment of patients.

    "Don Kirkman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    It seems to me I heard somewhere that Sharon Hope wrote
    in article <%esac.41436$w54.274183@attbi_s01>:

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    No one is trying to make you feel bad, just the
    opposite.

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    The problem is that you deserve informed consent. For
    example, the cognitive damage and short-term memory
    loss caused by statins is now


    very

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    well documented. It is also showing up more and more
    often in the


    popuar

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    press, albeit anecdotally. (Just in the last several
    months: Smart


    Money

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Magazine, Lake Tahoe local newspaper, Milwaukee local
    newspaper, Los


    Angeles

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Times Sunday magazine, etc.)

    Let me remind you again that the LA Times article on Dr.
    Cohen dealt with *overmedication*, not with the side
    effects of statins per se; other drugs were also
    discussed. I have seen parts of some of the other
    articles, but don't know enough about them to
    characterize them.
    --
    Don [email hidden]

  2. Don, The article is about overdosing, and the topic is
    discussed because overdosing increases adverse effects.

    The article is not about statin adverse effects, it is about
    overdosing causing adverse effects. However, it starts with
    the example of Lipitor adverse effects. That example (my
    husband and my family life) is followed by "Jay Cohen
    believes he knows what went wrong in Michael Hope's life." -
    overdose treatment with Lipitor.

    The fact that there are many other pharmaceuticals that also
    cause harm by overdose-level approved starting doses does
    not detract from the acknowledgement that Lipitor caused the
    life-altering destruction of my husband's health. That is a
    given in the introduction of the article.

    What is your point? No one claimed the focus of the article
    was exclusively statin adverse effects, only that the statin
    adverse effects on 10mg of Lipitor that destroyed my
    husband's health, business, and lifestyle are a prime
    example of overdose.

    "Sharon Hope" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:XwMcc.206837$Cb.1805975@attbi_s51...

    Quoted message said:

    "Sharon Hope" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:...

    Quoted message said:

    If you read the article, you would know that it was
    about how standard


    'low'

    Quoted message said:

    starting dosages are actually OVERDOSES. A quote from
    the start of the article, The OD MD, by Fred Dickey, Los
    Angeles Times Magazine, February


    15,

    Quoted message said:

    2004:

    "Jay Cohen believes he knows what went wrong in Michael
    Hope's life.

    Hope, 56, sits in his home in the San Gabriel Valley and
    tries to use


    his

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    brain, an effort of tortuous frustration for a former
    quick-thinking business executive. Not only does he
    suffer from constant muscle pain throughout his body but
    also from the anguish of short-term memory loss


    and

    Quoted message said:

    hte inability to command words in simple conversation.
    When he finally gives up on the word he is trying to
    think of and attempts a substitute,


    he

    Quoted message said:

    has forgotten not only what he has been trying to say,
    but what the


    entire

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    conversation was about.

    The reason for his Job-like travails? Not a dread
    disease or an exotic


    virus

    Quoted message said:

    from Africa. After years of tests and consultations with
    doctors,


    chemists

    Quoted message said:

    and others, Hope believes he suffers from overdose of
    the drug Lipitor,


    the

    Quoted message said:

    top-selling prescription drug in America today and a
    member of the


    family

    Quoted message said:

    of

    Quoted message said:

    drugs - called statins - that are hailed as lifesavers
    for reducing cholesterol.

    Hope took the drug for four years. The dosage was just
    10 milligrams


    per

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    day, the standard dose recommended by the pharmaceutical
    company. So


    what's

    Quoted message said:

    the problem?

    The standard dose is the problem, says Cohen, an
    activist physician and author who has picked a fight
    with the powerful pharmaceutical industry. Lipitor
    should have been available in doses of 5 milligrams or
    even 2.5 milligrams, Cohen says, but he doesn't believe
    the problem is confined


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Lipitor......"

    The article goes on to make the case that the drug
    companies and the


    system

    Quoted message said:

    reward unnecessarily potent starting prescription
    strengths, to the detriment of patients.

    "Don Kirkman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    It seems to me I heard somewhere that Sharon Hope
    wrote in article <%esac.41436$w54.274183@attbi_s01>:

    >No one is trying to make you feel bad, just the
    >opposite.

    >The problem is that you deserve informed consent. For
    >example, the cognitive damage and short-term memory
    >loss caused by statins is now


    very

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >well documented. It is also showing up more and more
    >often in the


    popuar

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >press, albeit anecdotally. (Just in the last several
    >months: Smart


    Money

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >Magazine, Lake Tahoe local newspaper, Milwaukee local
    >newspaper, Los


    Angeles

    Quoted message said:

    >Times Sunday magazine, etc.)

    Let me remind you again that the LA Times article on
    Dr. Cohen dealt with *overmedication*, not with the
    side effects of statins per se; other drugs were also
    discussed. I have seen parts of some of the other
    articles, but don't know enough about them to
    characterize them.
    --
    Don [email hidden]



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